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HappyGoLucky asked this question 3 months ago:

Is there an exception to the 5 year rule?

I have  served 36 months  as  a  GS  employee. I resigned  my  position and have  been a  NAF  employee  for  the  last  3  years. I was  recently  offered  a GS  position but  CPAC  says  I have  to sign a extension request. If  I haven't  been a  GS  employee  for  36  months shouldn't  my  time  for  the  5  year  rule  reset?

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3 months ago

Quote by HappyGoLucky:
I have  served 36 months  as  a  GS  employee. I resigned  my  position and have  been a  NAF  employee  for  the  last  3  years. I was  recently  offered  a GS  position but  CPAC  says  I have  to sign a extension request. If  I haven't  been a  GS  employee  for  36  months shouldn't  my  time  for  the  5  year  rule  reset?

You really don't give enough information to receive a good answer. Take a look here, though.

https://yaf.1105uat.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=72794#post800273

https://yaf.1105uat.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=28420#post287596


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3 months ago

My  apologies, I was  employed  as  a  GS  employee  from 2012 to 2015 here  in Germany. In  2015  I resigned  my  position and  took employment with NAF which I have  been employed  with since  2015. I stayed  in Germany  even after  resigning  and  taking  employment  with NAF. I had  applied  for  a  GS  position last  month and  was  selected  for  the  position. CPAC is  processing a OTEX on my  behalf. My  question is  since  I was  last  employed  as  a GS  employee  3  years  ago does  my  time  reset for  the  5  year  rule?

3 months ago

Good question but in your situation it's probably best for you to discuss the 5 Year Rule and how it affects your situation, with your NAF/HR or the gaining local CPAC of your new command (USAREUR/USAFE). As you know there are exceptions to every rule....to include the 5 Year Rule. Good luck and hope it works out in your favor.

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3 months ago

Thanks  but  it  seems  as  though  the  CPAC office  us  stumped  as  they are  waiting  for  higher  ups to respond  on how  to proceed  with my  OTEX. 

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3 months ago

The only way to reset is by being physically present in the USA or US territory for 2 years. 

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3 months ago

That seems  to be  what written in the regulation.. So I will knock out  these  2  years head  stateside  for  2 years and  try  to come  back overseas  afterwards 

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3 months ago

That’s the game we have to play unfortunately. 

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1 month, 3 weeks ago

The only way that your time resets is by having a physical presence in the U.S. for two years. If you have never left the OCONUS area then you have not reset your clock and all previous time in a Appropriated Funds (GS) position still counts. If you previously served in a GS position for 36 months then you still have 2 years until you reach the 5 year point and yes you would require a 24 month overseas extension in order to take a position.

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1 month, 2 weeks ago

IMHO - Your time should reset because you won't get retirement credit for your NAF time towards your Civil Service retirement time.  However, this is a question you should ask CPAC.  Good luck.

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