NorthStar asked this question 6 years, 4 months ago:

Civilian - bad idea to skip housing office approval?

Hi (again),

Now that I'm here, I have even more questions than before (and I am grateful for this site ). Unfortunately, I did not get a real CPAC In-processing, otherwise maybe these questions would have been answered.

Regarding housing: We have found a house we want to rent and we are working with the realtor (landlord is active duty US Navy and currently in Italy). The house itself has been inspected and approved by housing and previous tenant was American as well. So I got the contract filled out and signed by the realtor (he's got POA from landlord), and am supposed to have it blessed by housing before I sign it. Unfortunately, they are less than helpful. Earliest appointment they would give me is next Friday, and I most likely won't be able to make that as I have orientations scheduled at work. Realtor won't get the painter to start working at the house until the contract is finalized, so I kind of need to have it done soon because we'd like to move in by July 1. Soooo....what are the consequences if I go without the housing office blessing? I know as a civilian I can do that and still get LQA. However, my supervisor (who is active duty) seems to think it's a really bad idea.

Any advice...?



6 years, 2 months ago

The house I'm looking to rent isn't on the HRO list (renting from a Navy Reservist), do I just go through CHRA and FMO, or will they make me go through housing for some reason? Thanks.

6 years, 2 months ago

Quote by philly:
The house I'm looking to rent isn't on the HRO list (renting from a Navy Reservist), do I just go through CHRA and FMO, or will they make me go through housing for some reason? Thanks.


If you are a civlian you can do what you want.

6 years, 2 months ago

FMO requires housing approval on the rental contract before they will issue their furniture. So if your LL is making more money than housing would have offered it would be best to tell him to supply you the furniture that you will be missing out with this contract.

6 years, 2 months ago

I understand as a civilian I don't need to go through housing, I just want to make sure I can get furniture possibly.

According to my knowledge, housing sets the price mainly by sq foottage of the home. I know for a fact that the square foottage would price the apartment way less than what the rent is. that said, this apartment is a luxury apartment and based on that is worth the rental price.

I'll guess I'll just check with all 3 offices to figure it out.

6 years, 2 months ago

philly, I told you the restriction you will face. Its a new regulation that FMO and housing has set in place in an attempt to route more houses through their system. As long as your finance office will accept your non housing contract you're good to go aside from the furniture.

We do this all the time by purchasing the needed furniture for the tenant. The houses in question are often luxury properties that housing has no set formula to pay for so the owner sees no point in going with housing. Its a common problem.

6 years, 2 months ago

Robert, okay thanks. I'll try to see them first thing tomorrow morning then.

5 years, 10 months ago

Quote by Robert Mitchell:
FMO requires housing approval on the rental contract before they will issue their furniture. So if your LL is making more money than housing would have offered it would be best to tell him to supply you the furniture that you will be missing out with this contract.



This is correct, my wife is a DA Civilian, while we do not have to use the Housing office, the In Briefing IS mandatory.
They informed us and advised us against renting a property not on their approved list, but the house we are looking at is not on the list, and as a DA Civilian, it is up to you, so long as your contract is approved for pay through your CPAC office.
However, because we will not be able to use FMO for furniture items (mainly the large refrigerator, washer and dryer) the land lord is including a Large fridge ,washer and dryer with the house. Unfortunately , no wardrobes, as these German houses have no closets.. so that is a bummer.
I can see why the military servicemembers have to use the housing office and list, to protect them from renting something that they cannot afford, especially without FMO housing items...

5 years, 9 months ago

I am a DA Civilian, in the briefing they made it sound like it is mandatory for me to get approved first from HMO and then get LQA payment. The Airforce is required to get approval. The Army Does not.

I did have German contract, and I am not eligible for "borrowing" furnitures and washer/dryer stuff. But I can find whatevr place I want as long as I stay to the max allowance allowed they gave me.

Even if you go more than the allowance... you still are eligible as long as you just pay the difference.

5 years, 2 months ago

Quote by Bergman:
If you are a civlian you can do what you want.


Can an Army Civilian Get FMO appliances and furniture, if they never went through the housing office during inprocessing? I purchased a home and want to get FMO appliances, but am a little confused from the forum?

Can they actually deny me FMO furniture if I give them a copy of my orders and purchase contract?

5 years, 2 months ago

Quote by OPLAW11:
Can an Army Civilian Get FMO appliances and furniture, if they never went through the housing office during inprocessing? I purchased a home and want to get FMO appliances, but am a little confused from the forum?

Can they actually deny me FMO furniture if I give them a copy of my orders and purchase contract?


Because you bought, no you don't need the housing approved contract. Take your purchase contract to FMO. That's what I did 2 years ago.

5 years, 1 month ago

I just bought a few months back and was also able to get FMO furniture with no issues. Same as Bergman I just took my pruchase contract in to the Housing Office. Just had to fight to get my US vs, German style washer.

5 years, 1 month ago

Quote by kyhoods:
I just bought a few months back and was also able to get FMO furniture with no issues. Same as Bergman I just took my pruchase contract in to the Housing Office. Just had to fight to get my US vs, German style washer.


I asked about getting a U.S. washer and dryer, but was told only if it was available do to a recent turn-in. The FMO did allow me to select a "regular" size or large American-style refrigerator. They now have side-by-sde and french-door models with the freezer at the bottom. I was surprised to see the appliances (washer, dryver and refrigerator) all had the original shrink-wrap and manufacturer info on the inside and outside.

A big-shout out to Bergman for giving me the solid "G2".

5 years, 1 month ago

Yep. Bergman is a fountain of knowledge. It's great to have him on this site as a member.

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