NorthStar asked this question 4 years, 9 months ago:

Civilian - bad idea to skip housing office approval?

Hi (again),

Now that I'm here, I have even more questions than before (and I am grateful for this site ). Unfortunately, I did not get a real CPAC In-processing, otherwise maybe these questions would have been answered.

Regarding housing: We have found a house we want to rent and we are working with the realtor (landlord is active duty US Navy and currently in Italy). The house itself has been inspected and approved by housing and previous tenant was American as well. So I got the contract filled out and signed by the realtor (he's got POA from landlord), and am supposed to have it blessed by housing before I sign it. Unfortunately, they are less than helpful. Earliest appointment they would give me is next Friday, and I most likely won't be able to make that as I have orientations scheduled at work. Realtor won't get the painter to start working at the house until the contract is finalized, so I kind of need to have it done soon because we'd like to move in by July 1. Soooo....what are the consequences if I go without the housing office blessing? I know as a civilian I can do that and still get LQA. However, my supervisor (who is active duty) seems to think it's a really bad idea.

Any advice...?



4 years, 9 months ago

I am going to email our resident expert, Robert, on this. Hopefully he's around to answer.

4 years, 9 months ago

so - friday is 21 - you like to get in July 1.... tahts a week and a day

back-up-plan: .... check out, how fast the house can be ready after the contract is ready... seem to be still in the timeframe...

good luck!!

4 years, 9 months ago

Your military supervisor is required to use housing so he probably thinks it's a good idea that you do as well. There is no requirement or advantage to using housing for a civlian. If you ask housing they will tell you that they can help in a conflict with your landlord, but the fact of the matter is that they don't and won't. If you have a problem with a landlord they will tell you to go see legal or get a lawyer.

4 years, 9 months ago

Quote by Bergman:
Your military supervisor is required to use housing so he probably thinks it's a good idea that you do as well. There is no requirement or advantage to using housing for a civlian. If you ask housing they will tell you that they can help in a conflict with your landlord, but the fact of the matter is that they don't and won't. If you have a problem with a landlord they will tell you to go see legal or get a lawyer.


This would have been good to know when I got to Germany. Our POS sponsor told us we had to use housing. Housing did nothing, and we paid a Realtor. But, only after wasting over a month looking for a house. Housing told us we could not be reimbursed for a Realtor unless we tried with them, first.

4 years, 9 months ago

Quote by JOFTAA:
This would have been good to know when I got to Germany. Our POS sponsor told us we had to use housing. Housing did nothing, and we paid a Realtor. But, only after wasting over a month looking for a house. Housing told us we could not be reimbursed for a Realtor unless we tried with them, first.


You shudda checked with this website!

4 years, 9 months ago

Housing office told me if I don't go through them I won't be eligible for UTAP, FMO furniture etc... so I attended the briefing today & will get contract verified Friday. The house is already listed with the housing referral office, but since I found it on my own through a different web site...I am also stuck paying a realtor. On the bright side, the realtor is a true professional and has been very helpful.

4 years, 9 months ago

Quote by NorthStar:
Housing office told me if I don't go through them I won't be eligible for UTAP, FMO furniture etc... so I attended the briefing today & will get contract verified Friday. The house is already listed with the housing referral office, but since I found it on my own through a different web site...I am also stuck paying a realtor. On the bright side, the realtor is a true professional and has been very helpful.


None of that is true. I did not use housing. UTAP is required no matter because it will save the DoD money. Otherwise they shooting themselves in the foot.

When I say none of that is true, I'm talking about the incompetent individual at the housing office not you.

4 years, 9 months ago

Air Force civilians must use housing office. Army civilians are not required to use housing office. If AF civs don't use housing they won't get FMO stuff and they may not be paid their LQA.

4 years, 9 months ago

Quote by travelmeister:
Air Force civilians must use housing office. Army civilians are not required to use housing office. If AF civs don't use housing they won't get FMO stuff and they may not be paid their LQA.


Interesting.

Northstar - You AF or Army? I am going out on a limb and guessing AF. You may have already mentioned this, but I am old and forgetful.

4 years, 9 months ago

Quote by travelmeister:
Air Force civilians must use housing office. Army civilians are not required to use housing office. If AF civs don't use housing they won't get FMO stuff and they may not be paid their LQA.


That's strange since the rules are made by the State Department and the Joint Publications. I don't doubt the AF would try and impose those extra rules but even the housing office here is joint and services Army and Air Force.

4 years, 8 months ago

I'm an army civilian actually. Did jump through the hoops and got the housing office blessing. Moving tomorrow. Next question -- we're getting wonderful fmo furniture since our hhg aren't here yet. I assume we will need to buy pillows, blankets, etc.... is there a cheap way/ cheap place to get that since we will have everything double once our stuff arrives...?

4 years, 8 months ago

Quote by NorthStar:
I'm an army civilian actually. Did jump through the hoops and got the housing office blessing. Moving tomorrow. Next question -- we're getting wonderful fmo furniture since our hhg aren't here yet. I assume we will need to buy pillows, blankets, etc.... is there a cheap way/ cheap place to get that since we will have everything double once our stuff arrives...?


The BX, or, grab a VAT form, and head over to Poco, directly across the street from Globus. Address: Merkurstraße 62,
Phone:+49 631 361530

Poco is a German version of K-Mark.

4 years, 8 months ago

LOL !

Had a girlfriend in high school that called it K-Marks .....

4 years, 8 months ago

Quote by JOFTAA:
The BX, or, grab a VAT form, and head over to Poco, directly across the street from Globus. Address: Merkurstraße 62,
Phone:+49 631 361530

Poco is a German version of K-Mark.


How well do German sheets fit American beds?

4 years, 8 months ago

Quote by xtraloud:
LOL !

Had a girlfriend in high school that called it K-Marks .....


Force of habit. I type the name "Mark" all of the time... My son's name.

Quote by Bergman:
How well do German sheets fit American beds?


I didn't really have an issue with fit. We are talking about the temporary furniture, not their personal HHG furniture. I am guessing they just want something inexpensive to hold them over until their own stuff shows up.

It has been over 4.5 years since I used FMO furniture, but I somehow remember them providing linens for the beds. I may be mistaken on that.

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