Bergman asked this question 8 years, 9 months ago:

Winter tires

I know we have at least two tire guys on this site. So here's my question:

Can I run a set of 205/55 R16 on my 2011 Golf TDI?

Right now I have 225/55 R17. The smaller set above is on VW rims for a Golf as well.

....and finally I will need a set of summer tires to replace the all seasons in the spring. IF the price is right I might want to do seasonal storage.

Thanks!



7 years, 7 months ago

All winter long I was nagged with the low tire pressure light. Not a big deal. If you do what you are supposed to do, and check your tire pressure once a week, TPMS is not really a necessity. If the light really annoys you, stick a small piece of black electrical tape over the light, or, remove the fuse if possible.

7 years, 7 months ago

I rather pay 80 bucks to have the car monitor its tire pressure.

Of course if you use nitrogen the tire pressure should never change unless the tire is flat.

7 years, 7 months ago

Quote by Bergman:
I rather pay 80 bucks to have the car monitor its tire pressure.

Of course if you use nitrogen the tire pressure should never change unless the tire is flat.


Funny you mention nitrogen. I was having a tire patched, two days ago. I asked about nitrogen. The guy at the tire place (Tires Plus) could have sold me nitrogen, but told me it was a waste of money.

Why would nitrogen, why does the pressure never change? If a tire leaks air, what stops it from leaking nitrogen?

Edit: Just did some research. Seems that nitrogen is no great shakes.
http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/should-you-fill-your-cars-tires-with-nitrogen.html
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=191

From Tirerack.com:
Is it worth it? If you go someplace that provides free nitrogen with new tires, why not? Additionally we’ve seen some service providers offering reasonable prices of about $5 per tire (including periodic adjustments for the life of the tire) to a less reasonable $10 per tire (with additional costs for subsequent pressure adjustments) or more as part of a service contract, which we believe exceeds the value of nitrogen’s benefit.

Rather than pay extra for nitrogen, most drivers would be better off buying an accurate tire pressure gauge and checking and adjusting their tire pressures regularly.


From Edmunds:
Based on cost, convenience and actual performance benefit, we don't think nitrogen is worth it. A much better use of your money would be to buy a good tire-pressure gauge and check your tires frequently.

7 years, 7 months ago

But I thouhgt having the low inflation warning light was a potential inspection failure as it supposedly is a necessity to have the TPMS functional and light not lit? I've seen torn sides of opinions... so I am still a bit confused..

7 years, 7 months ago

Quote by pacmon:
But I thouhgt having the low inflation warning light was a potential inspection failure as it supposedly is a necessity to have the TPMS functional and light not lit? I've seen torn sides of opinions... so I am still a bit confused..


I don't know. My inspection was not during the winter months, so my TPMS was always working during inspection.

I am not even sure that TPMS is required. I suppose it could be required for cars equipped, but, what about those without?

7 years, 7 months ago

As to nitrogen, I think the main purpose is that it is not as susceptible to volume increases due to temperature or altitude. But technically, the nitrogen atom is smaller than normal air, so therefore it would leak out easier.

I'm not a proponent of Nitrogen and it really only makes sense in the racing world where they need to eliminate any variable they can to maintain performance levels.

7 years, 7 months ago

Well....with nitrogen tire pressure will still change based on temperature just not as much. Nitrogen also does not seep through rubber as much as air.

As for the warning light....yes you will fail inspection. I failed due to the windshiled wiper fluid light being on. I had to go to fill up a water bottle in the bathroom to pass and show that the reservoir was not leaking.

7 years, 7 months ago

I guess I should ask how and how often these so-called inspections are held? I was under notion that when you pickup the car, you have to pass inspection to register and plate the car, and then there is a winter month inspection to assure proper tires are mounted?

7 years, 7 months ago

Quote by pacmon:
I guess I should ask how and how often these so-called inspections are held? I was under notion that when you pickup the car, you have to pass inspection to register and plate the car, and then there is a winter month inspection to assure proper tires are mounted?


Yes, and no. You do need inspection when you get your car at first. You can either get a one year, or a two year inspection, depending on your car.

There is no winter inspection to make sure you have winter tires. That is done by spot checks by the Polizei.

7 years, 7 months ago

A new car gets 3 years now.

The tires are not checked by the Polizei....technically you only need winter tires if there's snow on the ground, it's recommended you have winter tires or all seasons form October to Easter. The only time the Polizei checks your tires if after a wreck in snowy conditions.

7 years, 7 months ago

Quote by Bergman:
A new car gets 3 years now.

The tires are not checked by the Polizei....technically you only need winter tires if there's snow on the ground, it's recommended you have winter tires or all seasons form October to Easter. The only time the Polizei checks your tires if after a wreck in snowy conditions.


I have been pulled over at a checkpoint no less than ten times. Each time it was the Polizei inspecting tires. They checked to see if the tires were correct for driving in the snow, and they were also checking tread depth.

7 years, 7 months ago

Quote by JOFTAA:
I have been pulled over at a checkpoint no less than ten times. Each time it was the Polizei inspecting tires. They checked to see if the tires were correct for driving in the snow, and they were also checking tread depth.


Damn! I've been here for over 30 years and never been stopped by the Polizei...only once last week for an illegal u-turn. They only asked me if I was american and I said yup. He said don't do it again.

Like I said, the only time you need m+s or snow tires is when there's actually snow on the road. There's no law that certain months or temps require winter tires. There must be snow, ice, slush etc. on the ground. Otherwise you can run summer tires, but I would not recommend it. For me the lower temps are enough as summer tires will freeze in lower temps.

7 years, 7 months ago

I wasn't pulled over for anything in particular. Each time, I was just one in a line of many cars that were being inspected for winter tires. Thing is, they usually just looked at my steel rims and never really inspected the tires, with the exception of the times they checked tread.

7 years, 7 months ago

Quote by JOFTAA:
I wasn't pulled over for anything in particular. Each time, I was just one in a line of many cars that were being inspected for winter tires. Thing is, they usually just looked at my steel rims and never really inspected the tires, with the exception of the times they checked tread.


That's what I'm saying. 30 years and I've never seen a line of cars being inspected. So what are you saying? They wait for snow to fall then start having inspection lines? No less than 10 times in the couple of years you were here?

7 years, 7 months ago

Quote by Bergman:
That's what I'm saying. 30 years and I've never seen a line of cars being inspected. So what are you saying? They wait for snow to fall then start having inspection lines? No less than 10 times in the couple of years you were here?


Exactly. I don't remember every instance as to if there was snow on the ground, or not. However, I may be under estimating with my 10 count. It could have been more, but definitely not less. I lived right along B-270, and they would inspect across the street from the Barbarossa Bakery. And, there was another inspection point where I got snagged quite a bit. It is the circle by the McDeath at the entrance to A6 Mannheim. They would pull cars into the park and ride, inspect and release (or write a fine).

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