scjsweetie0304 asked this question 9 years, 5 months ago:

On-Base Housing Townhome Question

Hello,

I was hoping someone could give me some good advice on who to talk to or on a process I don't know about. I am ADAF (jrnco), 9 months pregnant already have 1 kiddo and on the ramstein housing waitlist for a 3 bedroom jrnco housing. We currently live in stairwell housing (2 bedrm appt) for over 2 years and don't want to live in stairwell housing again (to many issues with neighbors/parking/pets/no yard for kiddos to play/etc). Yes, we went through our buidling leader about some of these issues - nothing...

How do we get a 3 bdrm town home? Who do I need to talk to to get one? I really don't want to be in another stairwell unit again for the remainder of my tour... (another 2 years) We have been on the wait list since almost dec10

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

PS: we lived off base for a very short period of time - no bueno when you have a young kiddo with NO play grounds living next to a retirement community. This is why we are staying on base.



9 years, 5 months ago

I am not sure that there is anyone that could do anything about your current situation. The waiting list is what it is. Many people have been on the waiting list for a very long time, you cannot qualify for a three bedroom until you have actually given birth to your second child. Once you have, you can take the birth certificate to housing to prove you have an additional dependant now, and of course do all the deers enrollment things, but that is about it. Ramstein is also harder to get onto than Vogelweh, so perhaps you should rethink where you may be willing to live, as the waiting list does not seem as long for Vogelweh.

Good Luck.

9 years, 5 months ago

Chances are slim. They have a lot of 3 bedroom stairwells open, due to pcs season. We are on the list now for a jrnco 4 bedroom, and know for sure it'll be a townhome because there are no 4 bedroom stairwells on Vogelweh, like there are on landstuhl. It doesn't hurt to call and ask though! Good luck!

9 years, 5 months ago

You are right I don't think there is anything I can do until he is born. We have been on the waiting list since december and when I called housing they said we would be offered something very shortly since they are currently offering to those who were put on the waiting list past april. I was advised that Ramstein has more 3 bedroom town homes and not as many 3 bedroom apartments as vogelweh does. Our chances are very slim to try to get a town home on vogelweh vs ramstein. We will see... just need to pray I guess.

The 4 bedroom JrNCO housing is a 4 bedroom town house unless you choose to be in a 3 bedroom stairwell housing. I wish you the best we as well Jasmine! Good luck on your move!

9 years, 5 months ago

You'll have to wait until your child is born. Also, depending on regs, you might still only qualify for a 2 bedroom. Your children, if different sexes, can share a room until the oldest is 6 and if they are the same, the oldest will be 10. That is why we live downtown.

9 years, 5 months ago

Interesting, they never said anything to us about sharing bedrooms. I know lots of people that would be in smaller apts if they followed those "regs".

9 years, 5 months ago

I know a family of 6 that was in a three bedroom, just got moved to a 4. It really depends on if they are going to push it or not. Also, depends on the waiting list and the people waiting for it.

9 years, 5 months ago

DC, if you are talking about me (and I think you might be - we're on another forum together, were in a 3 bedroom unit, and are a family of 6....), our situation is *not* due to the regulations of 2 children/room depending on age and sex. We were in a 3 bedroom, 3rd floor stairwell because of a terrible off base rental situation. We elected to take a reduction in # of bedrooms alloted in order to get out of said bad off base rental situation quickly. When our number came up for a 4 bedroom (townhouse, yay!), we moved ourselves at our own expense into a house that is our ACTUAL bedroom entitlement .

*edited to add the crucial word: NOT :P oops!*

9 years, 4 months ago

yup- you must wait for your 2nd child to be born. We had to bring certificates of live birth for our twins before they'd put us on the list for a three bedroom.

We have twin boys- so technically they could share a room, but the housing office didn't say anything about that.

If you're willing to live on Vogelweh, you may be offered a bigger home quicker. I was told we couldn't specify that we want a townhome. When your name comes up, they offer whatever whatever dwelling you're qualified for. So in your case they'll offer you a 3 bedroom apartment or 3 bedroom town home. They'll only offer you a 2 bedroom apartment if you check on the paperwork that you're willing to take a smaller unit.

Vogelweh just built a whole neighborhood of townhomes. They're moving people in as soon as they're finished- some don't even have turf on them when the moving trucks show!

If you're offered a 3 bedroom apartment first, you could always turn that down and hope your next offer is a townhome

9 years, 4 months ago

to tag along on twinmama's post (and since we know from personal experience), you CAN elect to take a smaller unit, but you can't be on both the 2br and 3br lists at the same time, so if you decide you are willing to take a smaller unit to get into housing faster (what we did out of desperation), you can't keep a slot on the bigger housing list. Our specific circumstance had us on the 4br list 11/09, we moved into an off base rental that was bad. Mar 10 we took ourselves off the 4br list and put ourselves ON the 3br list (b/c the 4br list was 18ish mos at that point, and we couldn't wait that long). We ended up moving almost exactly 2 months later into base housing on vogelweh (they told us 4-6m and it took 30 days to offer a house, and another 30 to move). They told us 18-24m for a 4br for ramstein housing - we went back on the list august '10, and we moved may '11, so it was a hair less than 10 months .

oh! and you do get two offers - they first offered us an unrennoveated 4 br stairwell on ramstein that we turned down. the next day, they offered us a townhouse.

9 years, 4 months ago

Thanks for the input! The new townhomes being built on vogelweh are only for officer housing.. at first I was excited thinking we possible could get offered one of those until I heard all 63+ houses are all for officers only.

Its nice to know that the trend I see is they always offer an apartment first and then offered you guys a town house. Currently I am due in 6 days and someone took our only parking spot yesterday (we have 2 cars -we are both AD) It is SOO difficult to have to walk 6 blocks to get to my apartment with a 4 year old 9 months pregnant. Its the little things like this.. you know.. Sorry just uncomfortable and pregnant.. i just want a good home for our family with a yard for kiddos to play in/adequate parking/and a home.. no more of 2.5 years in stairwell housing to just move again in to stairwell housing.

I understand my choices are only limited to what they offer.. but come-on.. really.. who doesn't hope for a home too.

9 years, 4 months ago

I'm not sure where you heard the new townhomes on vogelweh are for officers only, but an enlisted friend of ours is moving into one near the youth center.

9 years, 4 months ago

The town homes I was talking about was the brand new ones next to arm strongs.. when I attended the stairwell housing meeting they said they were officer units.

http://www.ramstein.af.mil/library/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=13945

I believe at the top of the page it gives the notes to the last housing meeting with the power point slides.

9 years, 4 months ago

That is the same area that an enlisted friend is moving, between the youth center and armstrongs. Maybe they changed their plans.

9 years, 4 months ago

scjsweetie0304 I think I know what you're talking about. It's a little cul-de-sac up the hill from Armstrong's. There are maybe 10 houses there. Those are officer only housing- although I don't know the minimum rank to get into those.

9 years, 4 months ago

Must not be just officers, if an E5 we know is moving there! That's why I'm wondering if they changed their plans.

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