JOFTAA provided this useful information 10 years, 2 months ago:

Get Your ID As Quickly As Possible!

The following is from my experience when I arrived in Germany as a civilian. Your mileage may differ.

The first thing you should do, before you eat, use the restroom, or blink, is to get your ID card. Your identification card is mandatory for just about everything you do. Without your ID, you cannot get onto base, shop at the BX, buy groceries at the commissary, or do much of anything.

If your temporary housing is on base, you don't want to be stuck in your temporary home just because you don't have an ID which will allow you to get back onto base if you want to leave.

Without an ID, you might as well be an illegal alien because you won't be able to do much of anything.

Here is the catch 22. You get your ID on base, but without your ID you cannot get onto base. So, how do you get your ID if you can't get onto base without an ID? Your sponsor can get you on base as a visitor, and your sponsor is supposed to know how to get you your ID. It is imperative that you have your sponsor take you to get your ID card as quickly as possible. This above everything else will give you the freedom you need. The downside is that you probably won't be able to get a permanent ID right away. It sometimes takes a few days for you to get into the computer system. You will get a pass that is good for 24 hours. This means your sponsor has to be available to take you back again for another 24 hour pass until you can finally get your permanent ID. Also, make sure that you get commissary privileges on your temporary pass. You will want to buy food at the commissary.

Once you have your ID, you have independence because you can freely leave and re-enter base.

The moral of this story is: Have your sponsor get you your ID immediately if not sooner.


Just be sure your sponsor knows how important your permanent ID is for you to get.



Look HERE for info on getting your ID card. I got my ID at Kleber, but you may have to go elsewhere. Your sponsor is supposed to be able to tell you where to get your permanent ID card.

Also look here: http://cpolrhp.belvoir.army.mil/eur/overseas/employee_handbook/living/id_cards.htm (CAC required)

Places in the area to get your ID cards:

The USAG-KL, ID Cards Section at Kleber Kaserne, will begin using their “Online” ID Cards Appointment System to reduce phone calls and alleviate the daily customer backlog in the waiting area. This user-...friendly system will be monitored at the Kleber ID Card Facility, building 3245.

Click on the following link: http://appointments.cac.navy.mil/appointment/default.aspx (need a military computer and CAC)


  • Select “GERMANY” at “Find OCONUS Identification Card Issuance Office.”
  • Select “Kleber Kaserne”
  • Select the available date and time
  • Complete the form with your information to include name, email, telephone number and hit the “SUBMIT” button.


You will receive a confirmation.

If you desire to cancel the appointment at a later date or reschedule, you will need your confirmation number or simply call the issuance office at 483-7662 or 483-7072. 0631-411-7662/7072

Kleber Kaserne - Bldg. 3245
Kaiserslautern
Telephone:0631-411-7662
Alternate:0631-411-7072
DSN:483-7662
DSN:483-7072
Opening Hours:Mon-Fri 0800-1200 and 1300-1530, closed Federal Holidays



Ramstein - Airbase
Bldg. 2106, Room 117
Telephone: 06371-47-6608
Alternate: 06371-47-6599
DSN: 480-6608
DSN: 480-6599
Opening Hours: Mon, Wed 0730-1630
Tue, Thu 0900-1630
Fri 0730-1500
Please send an e-mail to 86mss.dpmps1@ramstein.af.mil or call one of the above phone numbers to schedule an appointment.

Call before you go to be sure they are actually open. I noticed when I got here that these places can close for any number of reasons.



8 years, 5 months ago

I saw where the OP was as a civilian...but if you're coming over here as military...it's not an issue. Unless you're newly married all military dependents will have an ID if they are 10 or older.

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8 years, 5 months ago

I'm sorry, I guess I misunderstood the idea behind your post. My post was in response to this part of what you wrote:

Quote by MaeganLB:
I'm a little confused by the initial post. Why wouldn't you have your ID before coming?


I was just pointing out why the people participating in this post wouldn't have our ID cards upon arrival. You are correct, of course. This policy is probably not going to apply to any active duty families coming over here.

8 years, 5 months ago

You have to read the post in context.

My very first sentence in the very first post, should have been a dead giveaway.

If you already have an ID, this thread would not even pertain to you to begin with.

If you have material to add that would be helpful, please feel free to post it.

8 years, 5 months ago

Quote by JOFTAA:
You have to read the post in context.

My very first sentence in the very first post, should have been a dead giveaway.

If you already have an ID, this thread would not even pertain to you to begin with.

If you have material to add that would be helpful, please feel free to post it.


I did read it in context...
I'm a civilian. But I have my military ID as a dependent.
It was confusing [to me] b/c I thought maybe there was some unknown/unexplained additional ID that might be needed. But there's not. That's all. Sorry I'm not helpful with my questions.

8 years, 5 months ago

No biggie. I guess we were all a bit confused.

But, since we are on this topic, I'd like to clarify. You say you had an ID card. I assume you PCS'd from elsewhere? My original post was for people coming here as their first station.

7 years, 8 months ago

This causes civilians and their family members much wailing and gnashing of teeth when they arrive. Even your retired military ID (if you have one) or stateside civilian ID card will not help you gain entrance onto the base. Our sponsor got us on base the first time. Since we were not "in the system", we were unable to get our IDs right away but with a copy of our PCS orders along with a Letter of Logistical Support (obtained from civilian personnel that same morning) we were able to get on base, shop at the BX/commissary, take our driver's tests, register the car, and otherwise take care of business. Just so you know, it took 10 days for us to get our ID cards here at Ramstein and that is not unusual. Patience is the key to surviving civilian in-processing.

7 years, 8 months ago

Quote by kmc second timer:
This causes civilians and their family members much wailing and gnashing of teeth when they arrive. Even your retired military ID (if you have one) or stateside civilian ID card will not help you gain entrance onto the base. Our sponsor got us on base the first time. Since we were not "in the system", we were unable to get our IDs right away but with a copy of our PCS orders along with a Letter of Logistical Support (obtained from civilian personnel that same morning) we were able to get on base, shop at the BX/commissary, take our driver's tests, register the car, and otherwise take care of business. Just so you know, it took 10 days for us to get our ID cards here at Ramstein and that is not unusual. Patience is the key to surviving civilian in-processing.


Having a sponsor who has a clue, also helps. Nobody bothered to tell us about having our orders and letter of logistical support. It was really a stupid experience.

6 years, 9 months ago

We arrived mid July and were able to get on post (Landstuhl) with our stateside CAC and retiree mil ID.

What no one told us was to go next door after getting the new ID card and register the OCONUS ID in IACS. We got our IDs done in Kleber. We just found out by accident that we needed the ID registered in IACS. Why that isn't part of the process for producing the ID I do not know.

6 years, 9 months ago

I believe my avatar now applies.

6 years, 9 months ago

Quote by Dr. Aingre:
I believe my avatar now applies.


Threads don't die here. They may not be active, but as long as the info is still pertinent, people can still learn from it.

Do you have info for goi_cuon?

6 years, 9 months ago

Quote by JOFTAA:
Threads don't die here. They may not be active, but as long as the info is still pertinent, people can still learn from it.

Do you have info for goi_cuon?



Actually, it was meant to have quoted an earlier entry to the thread, but apparantly I didn't quote it. At least we all now know that military members don't need to get a "Ramstein" ID when they get here.

As for goi_cuon, I did not see a question, on a comment on their experience. I do know that at Baumholder, the wait for an ID is near nothing, and they do the IACS at the same time.

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